Warning Wins on the Wednesday Political Open Thread

[Z is for Zangie]

Not a good night for us on the left so much. I actually don't normally get wound up about this stuff, it just seems it has been one screw up after another etc...and the last thing I want is total Republican control and Trump becoming president again. It does not augur well...So, Good Morning! Have a wonderful Wednesday!

[Tarmaque]

I think putting McAuliffe in any important race was a huge mistake. He's one of the last vestiges of the Clinton era of the Democratic party, which is distinctly tainted today. I don't think Youngkin would have had a chance against a strong Democrat, but instead they gave him a Democrat with baggage.

But I'm not from Virginia so what the hell do I know?

[Slip Shod]

This comment is going to be neutral taking an objective view of standing outside looking in. The Democratic Party celebrated the election of Joe Biden, but they didn't serve themselves well with now sleepy Joe as president and the face of the Democratic Party. They would have done themselves much better with someone else. More charismatic showing leadership and strength.

[Mike]

This comment is going to be neutral taking an objective view of standing outside looking in. The Democratic Party celebrated the election of Joe Biden, but they didn't serve themselves well with now sleepy Joe as president and the face of the Democratic Party. They would have done themselves much better with someone else. More charismatic showing leadership and strength.

On this, we can have actual conversation. You are, unfortunately, correct. Human beings, for reasons I cannot quite grasp, love and respond to braggadocio. What we really need at high levels, especially at the highest levels, is competence and intelligence and calm in the eye of the storm. What we often choose instead is ‘charisma’; someone who makes a show of “leadership and strength” but actually provides neither.

But hail Virginia! Where critical race theory, which has been flooding the schools, can finally be banished! NOT. But Youngkin stepped up, very charismatic, showing leadership and strength in the war against CRT. That’s what won him the election, and here’s how/why:

[Slip Shod]

@ Mike ⬆. The teaching of CWT is again another stepping stone, just a step, in the Socialist agenda for this country. Seeding, breeding an idea, philosophy at the University level in hopes of bearing fruit 20-30 years later - a patient strategy, as all their plans are. And I do give them credit for their resolve and patience, understanding that American society is driven so much by the short-term, what's in front of me right now . But that is changing- everything moving so quickly now

[GuideToACrazyWorld]

I think putting McAuliffe in any important race was a huge mistake. He's one of the last vestiges of the Clinton era of the Democratic party, which is distinctly tainted today. I don't think Youngkin would have had a chance against a strong Democrat, but instead they gave him a Democrat with baggage.

I'll take it a step further. I think McAuliffe would have won had it not been for his comments about parent's having no place in the education of their children. This isn't indicative of some great change of the tide. McAuliffe ran a poor campaign. Why is it that we never seem to be able to say X ran a poor campaign?

[GuideToACrazyWorld]

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/a ... -guide.pdf

I'm going to add a few highlights. I won't use quotes because these are lifted from a chart

Vulnerable groups -> Groups that have been economically/
socially marginalized

Target population -> Communities/populations of focus

Disadvantaged groups -> Groups experiencing disadvantage
because of (reason)

The thing that strikes me about all this word policing is they often replace a word or phrase with the very definition of said word or phrase. The rest seem to be an attempt to push a narrative more then support clear communication. I just don't see many doctors coming on board. My understanding from talking to doctors in CA is that they get paid by the patient based on the complexity of the visit. That is why you often see the doctor for less time then you see the waiting room. I just don't see a lot of doctors rushing to use longer phrasing any time soon.

@Mike If your experience with doctor pay structure has been different please let me know. I know you work in the field.

[Runswift9]

The teaching of CWT is again another stepping stone, just a step, in the Socialist agenda for this country.

What the heck is CWT? If you mean CRT it's not being taught. It's a college level subject for discussion. It's not "taught" in lower grades. Also, it's nothing to do with Socialism. And if you are against "Socialism" can I safely assume you have no intention of using Social Security?

[Slip Shod]

The teaching of CWT is again another stepping stone, just a step, in the Socialist agenda for this country.

What the heck is CWT? If you mean CRT it's not being taught. It's a college level subject for discussion. It's not "taught" in lower grades. Also, it's nothing to do with Socialism. And if you are against "Socialism" can I safely assume you have no intention of using Social Security?

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Appreciate you, thanks - to each ☞vote your conscience. And with a fair and tallied vote let the people decide; each one a voice heard. I really can't add much more to that other than the pendulum seems to be swinging
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A side note now that I've got you here, Runswift9, and we can dabble with crazy conspiracy theories .. google Woodrow Wilson's biggest regret.
And before him Andrew Jackson taking on European banksters during his administration pushing for a Federal Reserve banking system

[GuideToACrazyWorld]

What the heck is CWT? If you mean CRT it's not being taught. It's a college level subject for discussion. It's not "taught" in lower grades.

That's not entierly true. From the California department of education...

https://www.csba.org/-/media/CSBA/Files ... a45ff136a9

No. There is no evidence that CRT is widespread in K-12 education. Although there is no definitive resource documenting the prevalence of CRT in schools, the consensus is that CRT is not included in curriculum and is rarely taught in
K-12 schools. While often confused, CRT is not synonymous with culturally relevant teaching or pedagogy, which aims to nurture

"Not wide spread" and "rarely" are not the same as not taught. It is taught in some class rooms here. I can't speak for every school in the country, but I know for certain some teachers are incorporating CRT into their K-12 educations. Some at ages I'd consider much too young to be able to intelligently pars such a complex concept.

[GuideToACrazyWorld]

Andrew Jackson taking on European banksters during his administration pushing for a Federal Reserve banking system

There was already a Federal Banking System under Jackson. He bankrupted the federal bank illegally. While congress was out of session and mostly in their home states, he ordered his secretary of treasury to divert all funds away from the federal bank to the state banks.

[Slip Shod]

Andrew Jackson taking on European banksters during his administration pushing for a Federal Reserve banking system

There was already a Federal Banking System under Jackson. He bankrupted the federal bank illegally. While congress was out of session and mostly in their home states, he ordered his secretary of treasury to divert all funds away from the federal bank to the state banks.

The idea from the beginning was to have the United States currency issued solely from the Treasury Department, sovereign and free from any outside influence which is exactly opposite of what we have now the Federal Reserve is a private banking corporation is how I understand it. And I admit I am not a brainiac. I'm somewhat limited and able to barely grasp broad concepts - country bumpkin

[Senor Natural]

Congress has not done a stinking thing to help Biden or democrats, can
t pass a bill that already passed the senate. The HOR is killing democrat chances with its bickering with each other and paralysis.
Pelosi is way past her prime, as is Schumer. Both are hurting Biden and the party.

[Slip Shod]

Personally, I believe we all travel through life at our own level of ignorance and that we're all pawns. I don't like to be taken advantage of, but I do know there's safety in numbers and that within the majority, that is the good people of the country, there is safety

[GuideToACrazyWorld]

The idea from the beginning was to have the United States currency issued solely from the Treasury Department, sovereign and free from any outside influence which is exactly opposite of what we have now the Federal Reserve is a private banking corporation is how I understand it. And I admit I am not a brainiac. I'm somewhat limited and able to barely grasp broad concepts - country bumpkin

That's because at signing money was issued by "the crown". The idea of centralized banking was only just being flushed out. In fact, at the signing many of the colonies had created their own currency. The first federal bank was opened in 1790. Washington was still in office, Hamilton was the mastermind behind it's creation and Congress was made up of many of the signers. If it was the intention of the signers to not allow for national banking it wouldn't have happened so soon after the forming of the nation.

All banks print money today. Or the modern equivalent. Banks lend out more money then funds they have available. This essentially creates a digital money out of thin air. This is a key factor in inflation.

I'm not saying these are good things, but most of the founders weren't ageist the concepts.

[Slip Shod]

⬆ they never envisioned private banking corporation controlling the economy. And now we can jump off into conspiracies as to why John F Kennedy was murdered. As I understand it he was about to begin a process to take the economy and issuing of currency back under the sole authority of the US Treasury and in doing so he was about to have the treasury issue its own $10 note upsetting the apple cart of a global banking conglomerate control

[Roam85]

Well, CRT sure is an effective boogeyman. Especially among people who think that if we stop monumentalizing the confederate secession, we're denying history.

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On economic controls/private banks/ and JFK:

I'll always restate how funny I found it that people were offended by the idea of having 20 dollar bills with Harriet Tubman on them in addition to the Jackson 20s. Because they claimed it was disrespectful to Andrew Jackson. Andrew Jackson's proudest accomplishment on his deathbed was 'killing the bank', as in preventing the rise of a federal reserve bank and private bank issued currency during his time. Putting his face on a federal reserve bank note (the 20 dollar bill) is INCREDIBLY disrespectful to the actual person. And has been for a long time. Him being one of two faces that may appear on these notes doesn't respect or disrespect him.

Also, I found it hilarious today that the Qanon crowd figured JFK Jr was going to come back from the dead to announce being Trump's VP in Dallas of all places. Fun fact about history: Dallas was not a fan of JFK Sr and many people said terrible things before JFK's ill fated trip to Dallas. Realizing how all those prior statements from Dallas citizenry and politicians made the city look given the aftermath of JFK getting his head blown off there, Dallas asked Jackie Onassis to issue a statement saying how nice everyone was and how well received they were.... after JFK got his head blown off there.

So it seemed like an odd place for Jr to come back from the dead.

[GuideToACrazyWorld]

they never envisioned private banking corporation controlling the economy.

They created a federal bank that did just that.

As I understand it he was about to begin a process to take the economy and issuing of currency back under the sole authority of the US Treasury and in doing so he was about to have the treasury issue its own $10 note upsetting the apple cart of a global banking conglomerate control

JFK was killed because he was going to tell the American people about the serrate alien breeding project that Eisenhower had started.

[GuideToACrazyWorld]

I'll always restate how funny I found it that people were offended by the idea of having 20 dollar bills with Harriet Tubman on them in addition to the Jackson 20s. Because they claimed it was disrespectful to Andrew Jackson. Andrew Jackson's proudest accomplishment on his deathbed was 'killing the bank', as in preventing the rise of a federal reserve bank and private bank issued currency during his time. Putting his face on a federal reserve bank note (the 20 dollar bill) is INCREDIBLY disrespectful to the actual person. And has been for a long time. Him being one of two faces that may appear on these notes doesn't respect or disrespect him.

Jackson was a phyco.

[Slip Shod]

@ room85 .
That's not so hard to understand. You know that the moon is made of green cheese and that President Biden is the one in charge really calling the shots

[Slip Shod]

@ room85 .
That's not so hard to understand when you know that the moon is made of green cheese and that President Biden is the one in charge really calling the shots
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Some would call Hillary Clinton psycho. The recent string of mysterious dead bodies that followed the clintons from Arkansas to Washington. She as Ma Barker and the Clinton foundation her mob syndicate
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It's been a robust conversation. Now to relax - for me .. a glass of wine and watch reruns of Lassie

[GuideToACrazyWorld]

Some would call Hillary Clinton psycho

She arguably shows some traits, but she never beat anyone with stick in public or announced her greatest regret was not shooting someone...

[Slip Shod]

⬆ - I'm sure behind closed doors there's handcuffs, muzzles and beatings going on . And who knows how many shootings behind those doors

[GuideToACrazyWorld]

⬆ - I'm sure behind closed doors there's handcuffs, muzzles and beatings going on . And who knows how many shootings behind those doors

I'm pretty sure Bill likes it.