(PO) Tuesday, talk away

[Z is for Zangie]

Have a good one!

[Mike]

As nearly always, Tom Tomorrow nails it:

[Slip Shod]

We're all curious about who leaked the Supreme Court's leaning. The shady dude could could be either right or left - I wouldn't bet on it one way or the other

[Mike]

We're all curious about who leaked the Supreme Court's leaning. The shady dude could could be either right or left - I wouldn't bet on it one way or the other

Sleight of hand. That leak serves a purpose for someone, while providing cover for others - as it dominates a slew of news cycles, keeping other important stuff out of the news. So then. Which team gets benefit in both instances?

Let’s see. Murdoch’s Sky News is hammering the “biden is old” thing to death, at the same time his other media will not let up on the Hunter Biden laptop. You know, the one that has supposedly been full of all secrets that the right ‘knows’ and has seen… yet somehow, has never managed to produce.

So that tells us which team is trying to provide media distraction.

Now let’s think on which team benefits from this ruling being known now. For the left, it would have been vastly more beneficial for this to come out in summer. Would have made the protest energy rise at exactly the right time for the election process. Instead, by November this will be old hat as it is subsumed in the news cycles. So it really does not serve the left.

Does it serve the right? Indeed, for the right it serves them to “lock in” this ruling in its most extreme language. To prevent the conservative wing of the court from having further discussion. Which it does, because they know that if they now back away from this ruling in any fashion their crazy wing will go absolutely batspit.

[Slip Shod]

You see mike, politics is a lot like espionage and spying. You have your agents and then there's the double agents /crosses and double crosses. It's a shady world of sometimes screwing the guy paying you cuz those double agents get paid from both sides. As Ms.Z would say.. "sigh"

[Tarmaque]

The shady dude could could be either right or left - I wouldn't bet on it one way or the other

I suspect it's someone with progressive leanings hoping to effect the midterms, but that's just a guess.

[Mike]

And just like with SCOTUS overturning Roe, we all knew Elon Musk would overturn trump’s Twitter ban.

[Slip Shod]

And just like with SCOTUS overturning Roe, we all knew Elon Musk would overturn trump’s Twitter ban.

And why not ? Bans on speech should be carefully thought out and rarely given

[Mike]

And just like with SCOTUS overturning Roe, we all knew Elon Musk would overturn trump’s Twitter ban.

And why not ? Bans on speech should be carefully thought out and rarely given

I do not disagree with the last sentence.

That said, one would imagine that a sitting President stoking a violent mob to do its utmost, to “fight like hell” to overturn a free and fair election just because he lost that election, qualifies as speech that - upon careful thought - a private company might not want carried on its communication channels.

[Slip Shod]

@ mike - I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, cut you some slack on things, sometimes you're just over the top and misconstrue, putting an evil twist on things.
If anybody got a raw deal in so many ways in the constant attacks in media it was Trump - several of which were just downright lies. It's politics as it is today, pointing fingers and lying, yes it goes both ways

[Z is for Zangie]

I don't know, some of my center-right pundits ( one who is a lawyer and has clerked for judges) think it is more likely to be someone on the right, trying to pressure one of the five to not switch and join the other justices ( most likely Kavanaugh...certainly not Alito or Thomas...probably not Gorsuch, maybe Amy)

[Z is for Zangie]

I don't know, some of my center-right pundits ( one who is a lawyer and has clerked for judges) think it is more likely to be someone on the right, trying to pressure one of the five to not switch and join the other justices ( most likely Kavanaugh...certainly not Alito or Thomas...probably not Gorsuch, maybe Amy)

[Mike]

@ mike - I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, cut you some slack on things, sometimes you're just over the top and misconstrue, putting an evil twist on things.
If anybody got a raw deal in so many ways in the constant attacks in media it was Trump - several of which were just downright lies. It's politics as it is today, pointing fingers and lying, yes it goes both ways

You are forgiven.

Forgiven for either not knowing, or for opting to ignore, the man’s character. His history. For his entire public life - and really his whole life, if his cousin’s words are accurate (which based on what we’ve all seen, is entirely likely) - he has rigged the game by pleading that he is treated unfairly. From NY zoning and safety regulations to Atlantic City gaming and employment controls, it has been his refrain. And he has backed it with a relentless barrage of litigation. He does not pay small contractors, quibbling over a tiny detail… the issue lands in court, and his army of lawyers cannot be overcome by the cash-poor contractor and the contractor loses. And this is a guy who started life as the child of a rich man, and was given - and then inherited - every possible advantage.

And he’s been treated better by the press than many previous Presidents. For example, no one went after Barron the way the rightwing press eviscerated the daughters of the Clintons and the Obamas. All the rumors of trump’s bad behavior, such as the womanizing and the adultery etc, were rooted in his own words and actions. Grab ‘em by the pussy…. and he did pay off the porn star. His (third, and second mail-order) wife no longer appears with him in public…. Tell ya what. You’ve said those “media attacks…. were just downright lies”. BE SPECIFIC. Which ones?

[Slip Shod]

@my buddy Mike
Specific? The Russian collusion set up / investigation financed by the Clinton foundation.
- & where do you grab'em ?

And I suppose we're going to sweep under the rug, cuz there ain't nothing there, Hunter Biden in his pay access to the White House money from Ukraine, China on and on . he's sitting on boards of companies earning millions of dollars not doing a damn thing to earn it. The money is going back to 'the big guy'

[Slip Shod]

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[Mike]

@my buddy Mike
Specific? The Russian collusion set up / investigation financed by the Clinton foundation.
- & where do you grab'em ?

And I suppose we're going to sweep under the rug, cuz there ain't nothing there, Hunter Biden in his pay access to the White House money from Ukraine, China on and on . he's sitting on boards of companies earning millions of dollars not doing a damn thing to earn it. The money is going back to 'the big guy'

The trump investigation found mounds of evidence. Evidence that was detailed and clear. What it could not do was manage to persuade any of the people who later supported the insurrection (by that I mean almost the entirety of the GOP) to abandon their fealty to the wannabe dictator in favor of doing what was right for the country.

As opposed to Hunter Biden. Funny how you segued to that instantaneously, rather than continue to discuss your dictator! Where for many years now various folks on the starboard have claimed to possess all the evidence of the supposed crimes of which you speak, yet to date have not produced one bit of that evidence. Hilariously, the center of that effort has been pillow guy Mike Lindell - and he once produced a meaningless string of computer code onscreen, and guaranteed that the evidence was in that code. That is years ago already.

That said, I am of two minds on this. Should the children of politicians be allowed to leverage their relations that way? There’s nothing in law that prevents those children from making a living, and leveraging connections in order to make a living is so rampant in all of life that I don’t see how we prevent it. But if Hunter compromised national security or committed some other crime in the process of doing what he did and you can find evidence that clearly demonstrates this, I will join you in calling for his head.

And you see, that’s the difference between me and you… between the left and the right. Andrew Cuomo was hounded out of office not by Repubs, but by Democrats over his ethical lapses. Madison Cawthorn? The only time the GOP began to say anything against him was not for all of his many ethical lapses, but when he showed party disloyalty. And so you stick with trump and continue to dopily defend him, blaming everyone around for treating him unfairly. Helping him continue to rig the game in his favor. And you are either too dim to realize that’s what you are doing, or you are cognizant and are signed on willfully.

Evidence, not Fox “I’m just asking the question” hearsay.

[Mike]

Shoddy, here are some of your fellow trump supporters in action at the Michigan rally: