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Terrific Tuesday coming up ( PO)

Post by Z is for Zangie » Tue May 24, 2022 2:17 am

Have a great one!
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Re: Terrific Tuesday coming up ( PO)

Post by Mike » Tue May 24, 2022 12:30 pm

:)

Two items from my yahoo feed (yeah, I have a yahoo email so I get this feed):
1. Recommended for me: bottle service waitress gets lots of tips. I had to look this up, because what’s a “bottle service” waitress? Turns out it’s a skimpily-clad gal who serves bottles of beverages in a strip club. Dunno why this was recommended, as I’m certainly not thinking of changing careers and I don’t imagine I have the requisite body type, but there it is. More interestingly….

2. An appeals court rejected the DeSantis Florida social media law that prevents online sites from moderating political speech. Does this on the basis of private companies having the right under the 1st Amendment to choose what is acceptable. If you disagree with this, consider the following:
- if you were an employer, and your employees scribbled horrible stuff all over the walls of your buildings, how would it reflect on your company? Do you have the right to demand employees, while on the job and at the work site, communicate with only the company’s interests in mind? And if graffiti shows up on the walls of the building, does the company have the right to expunge it? Or does “free speech” demand they leave it there for posterity?
- bearing in mind the terms of service here: if you were a moderator of Awkward Arguments, and someone were relentlessly posting political stuff in every one of the forums here, would you support the government of Florida preventing you from deleting those inappropriate posts and suspending the account that is spamming all the forums with that stuff?

Now then. Some of you have declared that the right to lie is so fundamental that it is sacrosanct, that not only government but private companies should be prevented from even identifying it as such, that you believe it’s ‘censorship’ if Facebook or Twitter suspend accounts that do not conform to the terms of service. That it is ‘censorship’ if those companies delete clearly untrue posts, that it is ‘censorship’ if they even fact-check those posts. Question to you: are you prepared to have every single forum here at Awkward Arguments relentlessly spammed with political posts? With stuff that’s blatantly untrue?

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Re: Terrific Tuesday coming up ( PO)

Post by Slip Shod » Tue May 24, 2022 2:39 pm

@mike - your comparison example of graffiti on an employer's walls is completely ludicrous

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Re: Terrific Tuesday coming up ( PO)

Post by Mike » Tue May 24, 2022 3:28 pm

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@mike - your comparison example of graffiti on an employer's walls is completely ludicrous
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Re: Terrific Tuesday coming up ( PO)

Post by Slip Shod » Tue May 24, 2022 7:17 pm

Mike wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 3:28 pm
Slip Shod wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 2:39 pm
@mike - your comparison example of graffiti on an employer's walls is completely ludicrous
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The labeling of another's political views as graffiti because it does not agree with you or maybe distasteful for you is hypocritical. And as far as graffiti goes -
One man's graffiti is another man's art . Socialism isn't liberal at all and when given power it's just as authoritarian as any other system in the world. Those who have read you enough begin to see through your double face facade

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Re: Terrific Tuesday coming up ( PO)

Post by Mike » Tue May 24, 2022 7:58 pm

Slip Shod wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 7:17 pm
Mike wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 3:28 pm
Slip Shod wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 2:39 pm
@mike - your comparison example of graffiti on an employer's walls is completely ludicrous
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The labeling of another's political views as graffiti because it does not agree with you or maybe distasteful for you is hypocritical. And as far as graffiti goes -
One man's graffiti is another man's art . Socialism isn't liberal at all and when given power it's just as authoritarian as any other system in the world. Those who have read you enough begin to see through your double face facade
Oh looky! You cannot accept that capitalism, as currently implemented, has massive flaws! You immediately resort to labeling me socialist and authoritarian!

I’m neither capitalist nor socialist. You pretending I’m one or the other is just you lying to yourself (no surprise there). Look, I can go on a socialist site and shred those people’s beliefs very easily. The moment you go from “socialism is one of many tools that can be applied to any element of an economy to “socialism is the only way”, you become a religious believer in socialism. I have no tolerance of religious believers in ANYTHING who presume that it all must be only their way for everyone.

And I apply that to capitalism. There are immense flaws in capitalism, flaws that are worse because capitalists insist it must be their way or nothing. It is no surprise that every 20 years or so, the capitalist system teeters on the edge of collapse and must be rescued by governments. That is, rescued by tax dollars. By socialism!! The vid I posted illustrates but one tiny sliver of the immense problems with it.

One must presume, from your instant adhominem diversion/attack, that you support the Uber-Rui h getting richer by charging the poor a non-refundable fee to merely even be considered to rent an apartment. By real estate prices skyrocketing, and thereby pricing the lower middle class out of home ownership, because private equity firms have taken a quarter million homes off the market. What of the mantra that if you work hard and invest, you can own an appreciating, wealth-building, piece of the American Dream? How’s that supposed to occur when the rich are shutting that door? When they are extracting usurious fees for all steps of the process?

One need not be socialist to grasp this stuff. And any honest person would admit that these are huge systemic issues in capitalism.
But the religious believers in capitalism? Nope, they attack anyone who dares state a critique of the system.
Just because the solutions applied by Marxists were inherently flawed does not mean his critiques of capitalism were off base. Oh but that’s right - just as those who claim to be Christian tend to be less familiar with the Bible than many atheists, so too do they adhere to capitalism without truly giving it any thought.

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Re: Terrific Tuesday coming up ( PO)

Post by Mike » Tue May 24, 2022 9:58 pm

Texas. Where everyone is red. Where armed citizen heroes save the day every hour of every day, where them being armed by itself prevents crime.

That mass shouting in Texas today, where 14 children and a teacher were gunned down? A rare non-event. Don’t let these things detract from the real problem, which is librul commienpinkos trying to grab our god-given guns.

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Re: Terrific Tuesday coming up ( PO)

Post by Slip Shod » Tue May 24, 2022 11:34 pm

Mike wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 9:58 pm
Texas. Where everyone is red. Where armed citizen heroes save the day every hour of every day, where them being armed by itself prevents crime.

That mass shouting in Texas today, where 14 children and a teacher were gunned down? A rare non-event. Don’t let these things detract from the real problem, which is librul commienpinkos trying to grab our god-given guns.
Have you no shame ?! Politicizing on the recent death of children

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Re: Terrific Tuesday coming up ( PO)

Post by Mike » Tue May 24, 2022 11:57 pm

Slip Shod wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 11:34 pm
Mike wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 9:58 pm
Texas. Where everyone is red. Where armed citizen heroes save the day every hour of every day, where them being armed by itself prevents crime.

That mass shouting in Texas today, where 14 children and a teacher were gunned down? A rare non-event. Don’t let these things detract from the real problem, which is librul commienpinkos trying to grab our god-given guns.
Have you no shame ?! Politicizing on the recent death of children
Do you forget? I monitor 4chan. The sentiments I parodied here were posted there, for real, within an hour of that shooting. Right now they are shredding Biden there for daring to go when he’s not paid enough attention to the border, and they are pissed at Abbott for even talking to him. Oh, and because the shooter was Hispanic they are up in arms, quite literally, over immigration and how trump was right that it’s all criminals coming in.

EDIT: and now it’s not just 4chan. US Senator Ted Cruz has stated exactly what I parodied. Shoddy, where’s your condemnation of Cruz for politicizing it even as the death toll climbs? Oh, and Abbott decided today, in the wake of this shooting, would be a good day to do the gun lobby’s marketing for them and encourage gun purchases.

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