(Friday PO) Three-quarters of Republicans prioritize the economy over climate change

[GuideToACrazyWorld]

It's hot. And some apparently don't mind it that way.

The latest heat wave is fueled by human-caused climate change from burning fossil fuels, but despite the settled science, the overwhelming evidence and the billions of dollars in increases for disaster preparation and recovery that climate change is costing the country, Republicans have grown more skeptical of the need to prioritize fixing it, according to the latest NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll.

The wide-ranging survey of 1,285 adults also found some of the most critical institutions in the country being held in low regard and that President Biden has some glaring vulnerabilities, especially when it comes to the economy, heading into the 2024 presidential election.
Republicans turning away from climate crisis

Overall, a majority of respondents – 53% – said addressing climate change should be given priority even at the risk of slowing the economy. That included 80% of Democrats and 54% of independents.

But almost three-quarters of Republicans (72%) said the economy should be given priority, even at the risk of ignoring climate change. That is up 13 points since 2018 – despite the increases in climate-change-related weather disasters.
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A solid majority (56%) overall called climate change a major threat, including almost 9 in 10 Democrats and a slim majority of independents. But 70% of Republicans said it's either just a minor threat or no threat at all.

A similar majority (55%) said climate change is having a serious impact now and an even larger majority (62%) said it is having a great deal or at least some effect on their communities. But in each case that included majorities of Democrats and independents with Republicans feeling the opposite way.

In fact, a plurality of Republicans – 43% – said climate change won't have a serious impact on their communities at all. Another third said it will only have a minor one.

These disparities show why such little action has taken place – or even will in the short-term – in Congress to address climate change.

Former President Donald Trump, the current front runner for the GOP nomination once again, has talked down the impact of climate change for years now. The 2022 National Ocean Service Technical Report – a joint effort between several government agencies, including the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NASA, Homeland Security, FEMA and the Defense Department – found that sea levels are expected to rise up to a foot in the next 30 years with more flood damage, seen in more inland areas and, by 2050, happen up to 10 times more often than it does even today.
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The country will likely see an additional 2 feet of rise by the end of this century and the report points squarely at emissions.

"Failing to curb future emissions could cause an additional 1.5 - 5 feet (0.5 - 1.5 meters) of rise for a total of 3.5 - 7 feet (1.1 - 2.1 meters) by the end of this century," it noted.

And yet despite all the evidence, Trump has lied and called climate change a "hoax" and implied that it would only "may affect us in 300 years" and only see a sea level rise of 1/8 inch.

Little could be further from the scientific consensus.

The survey did find that younger Americans, however, are the most likely of any age bracket to say climate change is affecting their community (72%), represent a major threat (64%) and should take priority over the economy (59%).

So there could be changes to policy, but it's looking much farther down the road.
Confidence in institutions is down across the board

Once-revered institutions in American life are seeing low confidence among the general public, according to the survey.

The FBI is the highest rated of the ones Marist tested in this poll, but respondents were split with 51% saying they have a great deal or quite a lot of confidence in it and 47% saying they don't have very much or none at all.

There was a partisan split with 65% of Republicans – and even 56% of independents – who had little to no confidence in the agency. For years now, Trump has talked down the once-vaunted law enforcement agency, accusing it – with little basis – of "witch hunts" and a "Deep State" conspiracy.

The Supreme Court continues to struggle after the Dobbs decision last year – 58% have little to no confidence in the high court. That includes three-quarters of Democrats and 6 in 10 independents.

A solid majority said they believe the court's decisions in the last couple of years are moving the country in the wrong direction.

The political parties, Congress and the media are all facing crises of confidence.

[GuideToACrazyWorld]

First if you click over to the story there are some questions not covered well. I think all three groups have way too much faith in congress.

So let's play a little game. For the sake of conversation let's say both these claims are true.

1. If something isn't done the the world economy will collapse in the next 10 years.
2. If something isn't done the average global temperatures will rise by 4 degrees in the next two years.

Which would you consider a more important issue?

[Tarmaque]

Which would you consider a more important issue?

Neither. Either way we're all fucked.

But to be a bit more realistic, I'd rather see the economy crash. We've survived that before, and we'll survive that again. As the ancient Chinese saying goes, "Every problem is an opportunity in disguise.

On the other hand, a 4 degree rise in temperature in 2 years would basically destroy the ability of the world to feed itself. We're pretty close to that tipping point now. One little war in Ukraine and Africa is struggling. India is rationing rice. Weather changes are already destroying crops. China is seeing record rainfall and flooding.

We've got it better here than a lot of other places, but it wouldn't take much to put a real dent in North America's food supply as well. And don't forget the refugee problem. What happens when whole areas of the world which are barely able to produce enough food for themselves can't produce any food at all. They have no choice but to leave, but where do they go?

A drastic economic downturn we could recover from in five to eight years, but a worldwide starvation event is a whole other kettle of fish.

[Slip Shod]

Compared to other countries the US is exceptional. China is the worst polluter on the planet. Beijing's smog the worst on the planet

[GuideToACrazyWorld]

On the other hand, a 4 degree rise in temperature in 2 years would basically destroy the ability of the world to feed itself. We're pretty close to that tipping point now. One little war in Ukraine and Africa is struggling. India is rationing rice. Weather changes are already destroying crops. China is seeing record rainfall and flooding.

I have no idea why I said 2 years. I meant to say 30. A 4 degree rise in 2-years would be armongedon. LOL

[Tarmaque]

I have no idea why I said 2 years. I meant to say 30. A 4 degree rise in 2-years would be armongedon. LOL

Lysdexia is a terrible disease.

Although to be honest, 4 degrees in 10 years wouldn't be much better than 2 years.

[GuideToACrazyWorld]

Although to be honest, 4 degrees in 10 years wouldn't be much better than 2 years.

The destruction would be slower. And we'd have more time to adapt.

[Tarmaque]

The destruction would be slower. And we'd have more time to adapt.

You have met people, haven't you? The longer they have to procrastinate the less they do.

[GuideToACrazyWorld]

You have met people, haven't you? The longer they have to procrastinate the less they do.

Hard to argue with facts.