House conservatives blocked a Republican bill to avoid a government shutdown, dealing House Speaker Kevin McCarthy another defeat with the clock ticking toward the midnight deadline on Saturday when federal agencies run out of money.
The failure is the latest display of the dysfunction that has engulfed Congress in the days and weeks leading up to an increasingly inevitable government shutdown. House Republicans have been mired in internal battles over spending and political tactics that have put them at odds with Democrats and most Republicans in the Senate who are pursuing a bipartisan solution.
The lack of unity has frustrated rank-and-file House Republicans like Steve Womack, R-Ark.. "This is what we are supposed to do as a governing majority: we are supposed to lead," he said.
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There's a plan to try again on Saturday — but no details
House Republicans went back to the drawing board Friday evening. They emerged from a closed-door party meeting with a potential plan to try to vote on a different, shorter stopgap measure sometime on Saturday. But there was seemingly no consensus on the details of what would be in that bill and when it might be considered.
The talks come as the Senate prepares to vote Saturday on their own bipartisan bill that would fund government agencies through November 17. It includes $5 billion for disaster aid and $6 billion for assistance for Ukraine.
McCarthy has ignored that bill and opposed pairing additional money for Ukraine on a stopgap bill, and argued Congress needed to address the situation at the southwest border.
However, his own GOP-crafted measure that would have funded agencies through October 31 and included border security provisions failed at the hands of a bloc of members who said they wouldn't approve any short-term bill. The vote was 198-232, with 21 GOP members voting against it.
At a press conference before the vote McCarthy downplayed internal divisions and essentially dared fellow Republicans to follow through on their threat to block it. "Every member will have to go on record of where they stand. Are they willing to secure the border or do they side with President Biden on an open border and vote against a measure to keep government open?"
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Republican holdouts were unmoved. Their argument all along has been that Congress should have their work writing spending bills, not pass stopgaps. Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz., repeated his stance ahead of the vote.
Democrats say the dysfunction is wasting time
Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass., noted the White House already issued a veto threat on the GOP bill, stating during the floor debate, "this is a complete waste of time."
Democrats denounced the steep spending cuts in the GOP bill. Instead of keeping current spending levels for all agencies, the measure walled off a few departments, but slashed others by 30%.
"This bill would slash investments in cancer research, leave communities recovering from natural disasters out to dry, undercut allies with a $1 billion cut to Israel and further cuts to our support of Ukraine, defund law enforcement and makes our communities less safe, and take food out of the mouths of millions. This bill raises costs on American families at a time when the cost of living is already too high," said Rep. Rosa DeLauro, the top Democrat on the House Appropriations Committee.
A group of Senate Republicans and independent Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema are also working on an amendment to the Senate bill that would address border security, in an attempt to make it more palatable to the GOP House. It's unclear whether their efforts will yield a proposal that will get support from Senate Democrats. But some conservative House Republicans remain staunchly opposed to including any additional aid for Ukraine.
A group of House Republicans and Democrats have been meeting to push a bipartisan plan in the event of a shutdown, many of them representing swing districts across the country, and warning about the negative impact of any shutdown.
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I wonder if those hardliners know that OPEC has already said if the US credit rating drops below A they will no longer accept US dollars. The reason why the dollar is so stable is becasue it's traded for Spice. Without out that, we will head into a major tail spin. SMH.
I want a balanced budget, in fact, I think it should be written into the constitution. Sorry congress you can't spend money you don't have, now do your job and figure it out. Yes that last sentence would be the closing one of the amendment, if I were king. But tanking the value of the dollar will be devastating around the world. Not worth making an ideological point, not even one I agree with.
I want a balanced budget, in fact, I think it should be written into the constitution. Sorry congress you can't spend money you don't have, now do your job and figure it out. Yes that last sentence would be the closing one of the amendment, if I were king. But tanking the value of the dollar will be devastating around the world. Not worth making an ideological point, not even one I agree with.
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Re: (Saturday PO) House GOP hardliners block spending stopgap with shutdown looming
from planting mangoes in Pakistan to studying male prostitutes in Vietnam and everything in between
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No matter the Year we're talking about or the Congress were talking about nearly all Congressional bills have this $$ BS in them
Hanging is too good for these elected a-holes
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Hanging is too good for these elected a-holes
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Is MK-Ultra on that list? Trying to use hallucinogenics to control people's mind might have been an interesting idea, but I still can't figure out how it took them 20 years before realizing it wasn't going to work.
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the what? It's Saturday night Mr guide. Are you tokin and smokin?GuideToACrazyWorld wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 1:57 amIs MK-Ultra on that list? Trying to use hallucinogenics to control people's mind might have been an interesting idea, but I still can't figure out how it took them 20 years before realizing it wasn't going to work.
You hit a home run with MK-Ultra , bizarre and out of the ballpark. Where in the world did that come from ? Not to come down too hard on you because I understand.. I've been there once or twice myself. Anyway, have yourself good evening things will look different in the morning
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I was probably on edibles, but I didn't make up MK-Ultra it was a joint venture between the CIA and the army, in which they tried to use hallucinogenic drugs to create mancherian candidates. Not a conspiracy theory a real program that lasted almost 20 years. Seems to me the most ridiculous thing the government ever funded.